Am I evil?

I often get the question if I’m a Satanist, a worshiper of the devil. The reason for this is of course my background in Mayhem and our choice of symbolism and evil style. Tired of the questions I’ve decided to post an answer in my blog – an answer that is a bit more thorough than a simple yes or no. Now, that might be an answer in itself for many readers, but read me out.

To start with Mayhem. I can’t answer for us all, of course not. I can only give an answer from my point of view. Øystein is no longer with us, and I do not wish to put any opinion in his mouth post mortem. Necro is still with us, so if you’re interested in his story – ask him.

Now, am I evil? Or, do I worship Satan?  The simple answer goes like this; No I am not evil, and I do not believe anyone should be evil either. But if the christian bible is true, I guess I am on Lucifer's side, but I do not think that is the evil side. Confusing? Well, I guess it might be without any further explanation. To further add to the confusion, I want to underline the fact that I personally do not believe that the christian bible represent any form of truth, neither did I back in the eighties.

How come I then started this Mayhem, black metal, Satanist, occult thing then? First of all I did not start that – I started a band together with two very good friends. The band took the form of Satanism and black metal, true, but it wasn’t  that who triggered the birth of the band. It was not even given a name when we started – Mayhem as the name of the band came long after we started to form ourselves. Why then, you may ask, did we dress it up with Satanism and evil? That my friends, do have an explanation. First we all disliked authorities, furthermore we really disliked the christian church, and last we liked heavy metal and the style of the occult. Bands like Celtic frost, Venom, Black Sabbath and their like was what we listened to and we liked their form of expression and style.

Satanism was for me the natural image of choice. I was very interested in the occult, I liked heavy metal, I did enjoy the darker side of things and was fascinated with Goth images and dark tales. I was very interested in religion and philosophy and was interested in politics. That I also hated the church institution made it all given. It just had to be Satanism. I did not believe in Christ at that time, but I don’t think I was an atheist. Agnostic might be a description of the state I was in regarding any belief or faith. No, I just hated how the state church and other religious groups violated the individual rights to freedom. The church and the Christians in Norway still have some influence on how our society is built. They are responsible for many cruelties up to the eighties – and are still fighting for rules that are, in my opinion, inhumane and full of disrespect for the individual human being.

There are three ways to attack the church – you can challenge them on ethics and moral issues, you can challenge their theology, or you can make them really angry, engaged and upset by addressing their major fear or common mantra on what they fight – Satan. We did the latter. Actually we did them all, but with Mayhem we just made the ultimate effort to appear evil and satanic. And it worked. It worked for me because I was able to contribute to a musical genre I really liked. And our protest on the evil church (hehe yes, evil) was a huge success. We got the reaction we wanted, they hated us.

But why do I say that I’m on Lucifer's side if the bible is the truth? Which I do not believe it is. Well, it doesn’t take too much effort  to read the bible. It is big, but hell, they (the Christians and the church) want us to accept that their religion is to be followed whether you believe it or not, one might as well try to find out what they believe in. So I did. And what a story (or should I say stories). The first thing I learned by really reading the bible with interest, was that the bible was something completely different from what the church and the teachers had told me. I later understood that theology is the reason for that – in Norway you can call yourself a Christian without even believing in the resurrection of Christ himself – go figure. I’ve now read the bible many times, and I must say – it is some cruel and evil bastard on top of that food chain.  What was Lucifer's sin? He opposed God. Never forgiven. What was Adam and Eves sin? They didn’t obey God. Never forgotten, but later forgiven. Ahh.. says the church, but you read the old testament, you shouldn’t do that. It is the new testament that is the foundation of Christianity. Well, ok. That makes the story a little better, but why do you keep on printing the biggest part of the bible – the old testament – if there isn’t any point in it? Isn’t that a huge waste of good wood? I just don’t believe it, and neither do they. If challenged, they want to keep the old stories, which brings it all back to sense again. But they don’t believe huge parts of it – or as they say, it’s not meant to be taken literately. Ok, so who decides what to choose? Given that question, they all start to become difficult again.

The old testament is full of evil and sadism. It presents a patriarchic philosophy and a cruel and psychopathic God.  It is also full of rules. Not only the ten commandments, if someone should believe that. And what rules! Anyone even wanting to try to follow them would fail. First they are very well adapted to a life in tents in the middle of a desert 4000 years ago, but not as well for a modern lifestyle and enlightenment. Second they often contradict each other, which makes it even tougher to succeed. To really bring on confusion, the Christians obey other laws from the old testament than the Muslims do. The pig thing is an excellent example. The Muslims follow the rule, the Christians don’t. But regardless of that and many other things, the bottom line is that we are to obey a church who wants us to adjust our society and private lives based on a story of God and his rules which by large is not to be taken seriously, or at least literately.  At least not if what is written talks about a cruel and merciless God. Interesting isn’t it. Interesting, and not very trustworthy. I for myself do not want to obey the old testaments God – even if he did exist. I oppose God from the old testament, and would gladly join Lucifer in his struggle to fight him. You could argue that Lucifer is not a very nice angel either, and I agree that the angel is portrayed as very bad news. The thing is that it is the God-side that describes him, the side that worship the psychopathic dictator, God.

There’s still the new testament. Is it helping God to look better? Yes, it does. The God of the new testament is much better than the one in the old. But the problem is that it is the same God. The church wants us to believe that there is a new ruling, but it’s not easy to argue like that when they still want to keep the old testament and different rules from it. And besides, the new testament is full of rules, new and old. Rules that they impose laws for us all to follow, believers or not. Rules that disrespect the individual  rights to live as one want. And if not that is enough, the church and Christians also have a big problem with which parts of the new testament we shall believe and which we are not to take literately. Here goes again. Are women allowed to speak in public? Is it ok to be gay? Is there a place like Hell, and will non-believers, good or bad end up there? Was Mary a virgin? Should we beat our children? Will there be a judgment day as the apostle John describes it? The list can be very long. But let’s not go there.  The point is, that there is many good reasons to object to this God the Christians wants us to believe in. If the testament is of good and love, how come a good and loving person who dies goes to hell to be tormented for a thousand years just because that good person decided not to believe in Jesus? No, this God has the same entities as he had in the old testament – he just added some loving and broadened the recruitment by telling the people of the world that from now on  also non-Jews can become one of his people. Sorry mate, I’m not going to live with that. This is bullshit. It is so full of contradictions and cruelty  that I am ready to fight it. But then again I don’t have to – I don’t believe any of it to be true.

So what did I fight? I fought against the church. They struggle to impose and maintain laws that restrict our freedom. I’m not talking about not killing or things down that line. I’m talking about the choice of sexual partner, the choice of opinion and expression, the choice of doing my shopping on a Sunday and to have a drink if I want to. In Norway we still have laws that are directly connected to the church’ dogma. I’m lucky to be a hetero sexual, because by living like one I have the opportunity to gain all citizen rights. The homosexuals in Norway doesn’t have the same rights. Is that because a homosexual is a bad person? Or is it because he or she is a threat to our society? Is it because homosexuals are lesser beings? No, not according to the state. It is only because the church won’t allow the society to accept homosexuality as a ok choice of living. And why does the church mean that? Well, in the old testament you can read that it is a sin, and it is repeated in the new testament by Paul. To the church it doesn’t matter whether or not the homosexual believes in their God or not, they just don’t want him to live as he wants because they, and their God,  don’t like it.  Actually we don’t have to go to many years back to see how christian politicians and the church fought hard to keep homosexuality a crime here in Norway.

If we look at the history of the church and their influence on our society and laws, it is a very sad read. The church will of course say that that was not the right church, burning witches or supporting tyrants, setting fire to Rome (it has been put forward by historians that Nero might have been right on that issue)   or setting off the horrible crusades. The church was against common democracy because kings ruled by the authority of God, they fought against women’s right to vote with their bible as argument, they supported slavery, they supported imperialism. They still fight against women rights and they do not want us to live with free choice. Now what kind of institution is this? Someone we should fight for, or against? I say against, and that makes me a bad person in a lot of christian views. Do I feel bad? Not at all, on the contrary I feel that I fight on the good side here. I fight for every mans right to live his life as he may choose himself. I fight against anyone, including the church, that wants to limit this freedom. I do agree that we need some order in a society, and that laws and police are the way to ensure that they are understood and followed. But the laws should be based on universal humanitarian reasoning, not on some made up religion in which some or most people believe in.

I am a secularist, I believe that it is crucial for a democracy to separate religion and the state.  Does that make me an atheist? Not at all. It should be possible for a deeply religious person to respect that his fellow citizen has a different belief, and thereby accept that the rules that follow his religion doesn’t necessary have any meaning for the other. If the church would accept this, I would rest my case and wish them good luck with their struggle to please their God. To be a secularist does not mean that you are against religious beliefs or faith. It just mean that you respect that other people have taken a different choice, and that you want to build a society that has room for you both. I know Christians who are secularist, and they don’t seem to have difficulties with their God because of it.

As a matter of fact I’m not an atheist, because I do believe that there might be something bigger than what I can see or understand. You might call me agnostic, but I don’t call myself anything. I do have moral and ethics, but they are not based on any religion. I do follow the principles of Thelema, but that is to me a philosophy and a way of understanding the basics of our living. I do believe in science, and are a strong defender of the evolution theory in opposition to the so-called theory of intelligent design. But I’m not convinced, as many atheists are, that it is proven that there is no higher purpose or meaning to our existence.

Do I think science is bluffing? No, I don’t. I believe everything they have been able to explain so far. But they still struggle to explain everything. The day they do, I’ll accept it. But at this moment they seem to argue a bit, as they always are.  I’ve heard that they are talking about a theory of everything, evolved from some quantum physics of some kind. But that part of science is completely impossible for my level of insight to understand, so I remain uncertain.

Religious people often grasp these kinds of statements and say that by this position I have accepted that the theory of intelligent design is an alternative to the evolution theory. But it is not, it’s not even a theory it is a hypothesis based on religious faith. The mere fact that we would not have existed if the tiniest adjustment where done just microseconds after the big bang, does not mean that there has to be a designer. How stupid of an argument is that?  Take how our lives depend on all kinds of coincident. What if my ancestor 2000 years ago took a different decision which changed who he married – I guess I wouldn’t have been sitting here today. Does that mean that since he did as he did and I am here, there is a God that designed it? No, you have to come up with some better arguments. The fact that it is a fantastic almost unbelievable coincident that made it possible for the human race and life to exist, does not mean that there’s a God. It might strengthen a religious person’s faith, but it is hardly any scientific proof.

So, am I a Satanist? No I am not. I do not believe Satan exist. Am I evil? No I am not. I do believe in good, and try to act as good as I can. Am I against religious people? No I am not, on the contrary I do believe in the freedom of thought and expression, and that includes faith and religion. Am against religion or organized religious societies? No, I’m not – let them worship their God as they want.  Am I against religious laws and power? Yes I am, because that often includes putting up restrictions on other people’s lives based on dogmas rather than humanitarian reasons and thereby restrict my freedoms.

Comments:
Posted by: Fr. T

Amen, brother!

13.11.2006 @ 07:30
Posted by: Matt Atkin

I am a Christian but I also agree that as Christians we have no place legislating morality and enshrining biblical morality in law and forcing a man to behave, act or think in a certain way. Jesus did not go to the halls of power and influence to try and have His beliefs made into the laws of the land. He hung out with the common people, lived His life as He believed He should and if people wanted for themselves what He had then that was their choice. Jesus told His disciples to go out and make disciples of all the nations, not to go out, get elected and then make people slaves to a law. He actually came to do away with the old Jewish laws and He'd be pretty damn angry to see what people are doing in His name.

21.11.2006 @ 11:02
Posted by: Manheim

Hi Matt, thx for the comment. I hope more people from the different religions would take the same stand, and speak it aloud. It would make the world a better place

22.11.2006 @ 10:48
Posted by: black

I stumbled upon this site by accident... Manheim sounded familiar and all of a sudden - could that be HIM? hehe. Anyway, I agree with you 100%. I was "problematic" at school because I didn't obey false authorities, because I refused to go obligatory christian faith classes where priests thaught kids if they don't go to church they'll have no friends and other bullshit. You are lucky to live in country that has only small percentage of christians. Imagine living in country that has over 90% of christians? Although secular state, priest are all over; autobahn opening, bank opening, bridge opening... I came to conclusion - less religious people, more successful country. I see every day on tv or in papers people whining they have nothing to eat, no work with mandatory "god help me". They are capable to sit all day at home and prey to god because "god will help them" but they don't want to go out and actually do something. Servers them right... I enjoy watching prominent clergy celebrating Pagan customs and keep Pagan tradition alive and well. Most of them are clueless. One more thing I learned: there is no good and evil, its christian thing. There is only balance between order and disorder. Thats how whole universe functions and people knew it before bible. That might also give answer to your initial question.Oh, I'm listening Mayhem since 94' when I was 10 :) I was playing Voice of tortured skull today and I'm wondering which song/artist is in the end of Carnage? Maybe you will know that? Greetings from fundamentalist christian country of Croatia.

02.01.2007 @ 17:25
Posted by: Manheim

Black, You found me allright :-)Sounds like Croatia has a way to go. I hope there are more people like you, who can speak out loud. 80 percent of the norwegian population has membership in the state church in Norway, butI visited Croatia before the war, and was on my way there on my way to Turkey when the war broke out and we had skip the yogoslavia roundtrip and just get out as soon as we could. I know there are difficulties still, but things look brighter for your country from the outside, at least. And that's good :-)I agree with you on the evil/ good thing is a religious thing. But I'm not shure I would say that what we have is just a q. of order and disorder. I believe in thelema; Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law, love is the law - love by will. If you're not familiar with thelema I advise you to read into it.Here's one of may sites that among other things has information: http://www.lashtal.com/nuke/About your q. "which song/artist is in the end of carnage" That would be necro if I don't remember it wrong.

05.01.2007 @ 23:52
URL: http://www.manheim.no
Posted by: Manheim

hehe - the but... was a bit short. I meant to write ...but gladly just a minor of them is fundamentalists.

05.01.2007 @ 23:54
Posted by: Svenno

Thrilled to read this. Many of your thoughts on the subject resonate nicely with mine. When I first started to listen to black metal I was fourteen years old and I probably believed back then that many of the bands were really into some childish idea of being "evil" (and maybe some of them were). Now, fourteen years later, and for some years now, I feel I have begun to understand it in a different way, and reading this is almost like a "dream come true"; that the satanic symbolism and provocativeness of the genre's originators went far beyond any childish belief in "evil"... I also, like previous commentor Black, "stumbled" upon this site by chance, and then wondered "is this the Manheim of Mayhem?"... Very nice to read your good thoughts and see that you're alive and making music. I have sometimes used christian concepts in various writings, and the reason for this is solely because christianity still influences politics and the church has so much money and power at their disposal, I feel some of the energy should be redirected...I will definitely check out your new music someday.

26.01.2007 @ 06:48
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Posted by: Manheim

thx Svenno, Your use of christian concepts sounds interesting. :-)

28.01.2007 @ 22:44
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Posted by: Stefan Rydehed

Hei Manheim.Stefan Rydehed, svenske dokumentärfilmaren här. Behöver komma i kontakt med dig. Skicka ett email till min mail rydehed@hotmail.comMye intressanta funderingar på din blogg.mvhStefan Rydehed

22.02.2007 @ 14:40
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Posted by: Steve

Hails, Manhiem! VERY good blog! I, too stumbled on your site, and I must say, I will be coming back often. Your take on the hypocrisy of x-tianity is spot on! As another follower of the left hand path...I couldn't have said it better myself.

Darkest Blessings!

"Cum Saxum Saxorum In Duersum Montum Oparum Da In Aetilbulum In Quiatum Draconis"

25.05.2007 @ 06:56
URL: http://www.myspace.com/draconisdesigns
Posted by: Manheim

Steve,

Thx a lot. You know your spells hehe

Manheim

93/93

27.05.2007 @ 22:37
URL: http://www.manheim.no
Posted by: Odium

First, it's been a great reading and thank you for preparing it. I have a muslim but liberal family and i claimed that there is no god nor any other creator. I thought (and i still do) it's just the oldest way to understand nature as in the creation of the universe because knowledge we can acquire is very limited and we can't explain further than some events. But religion simply says that it's the end of knowledge because there is only god further.

After all my basic scientific anti-religion views, i must say that your understanding of the whole conceptis really accurate. I've read most "holy" books and all i've seen is rules, hypocrisy and violence. If i scientifically believed that there is a god, i would oppose it because (im not gonna say "god cannot be like this". it is if it claims so.) even if i approved its rules, it still is a psychopathic monstrous creature which claims that it will punish the ones who oppose it in the most evil way it can, does not accept alternatives and encourages the ones who are on its side to hate/murder etc. that are not on its side.

Who tha hell are you to determine which apple im gonna eat?

19.11.2007 @ 23:52
Posted by: Manheim

Thx for your comment, odium. We certainly seem to agree on these issues. Keep up the good work, and hopefully the secular idea will one day be default structure in all states of the world :-)

20.11.2007 @ 21:49
URL: http://www.manheim.no
Posted by: Claudio

Hi Manheim!

First of all congrantulations for you blog and for the work you did with MayheM!!

I read your

whole post and I have to say that I agree with what you wrote... In particular I share your same point of view on how christianity and its moral laws influence politics and people's lives... I live in Italy and as you surely know the Church's influence is very strong... And what the Pope says here is law! Even though the Vatican should be another State, separated from Italy and its institutions. I also heard on the radio that the European Union is investigating on the Italian Government for financing the Catholic Church and the Vatican...It's a shame! Our Government claims to have no money, life gets more and more expensive and they give our money to the priests... Besides there's a lot of hypocrisy, there are priests that have hetero/homosexual relationships or go to prostitutes and they are the same men that preach

for virginity or accuse gays or any sexual relationships before wedding...

Hope you understood everything...

Bye!

PS I forgot to say that I play in a black metal band, if you have some time come and check out our website : http://www.myspace.com/helvetebdsm

21.11.2007 @ 16:12
Posted by: manheim

Hi Claudio,

I know how bad things are in Italy. To sad. But keep up the good work for secularism, in spite of the difficulties.

I'll visit your site - say hi to your friends in Helvete :-)

23.11.2007 @ 23:46
URL: http://www.manheim.no
Posted by: Behemoth

I'm glad I found you, Manheim and your blog, thank you for writing this

06.12.2007 @ 16:14
Posted by: Odium

hey! it's me again. i have something in mind. maybe you're not like that since you're not actually anti-christ and you defend their freedom too. there's a hypocrisy in this black metal community. they are the least tolerant community EVER! against christians, muslims, gays etc. what's your view in that?

08.12.2007 @ 13:39
Posted by: Manheim

Odium; I like to think of myself as a tolerant person, and I do hope that my surroundings experience me as one to. The black metal community I know of, consists of people of all kinds. There's of course people who are narrow minded, stupid and intolerant among black metal fans and artists, as it is in other "music labeled groups" or communities around the globe. If you want my opinion, I think that people who can't tolerate and/ or fight other people because of their faith, sexual identity, color, nationality etc. are stupid. They don't have any perspective on life and society.

They're probably not very smart, and should try to read a book now and then. Some stupid artists and fans in the Norwegian BM community tried to impose Nazi ideology into the core BM genre in the early 90ies. I'm happy they where few, and that they didn't succeed. In my opinion all humans are equal, and it is a task for us all to struggle for tolerance and respect among all people. I follow the philosophy of thelema, which means that I try to live under the rule of free will. This goes for all human kind - not only for myself. I want everyone to live their life according to their own free will, and without limiting other peoples wills. In that perspective you will understand my fight against theocracy and religious fanatics that want to impose their faith and religious rule on society. That's why I find fascism, racism, totalitarianism, religious based politics and rules etc so intolerable. Every person on the planet should have the opportunity to live under their own free will - nobody is entitled to limit personal freedom for other than them self.

I must underline that in order to actually live under free will, you have to respect others free will - and in that you also limit what you can do under your own will.You must not misunderstand my fight against religion, to be the same as intolerance, not respecting religious people choice of faith. I do respect freedom of though and religion, as I respect other individual freedoms. It's the religious people who are intolerant, and who fight against freedoms I fight against.

19.12.2007 @ 05:38
URL: http://www.manheim.no
Posted by: Odium

If you try to limit them as they do to you, you won't solve anything and make things worse. Believe me i understand you. I live in Turkey =)

04.01.2008 @ 15:40
Posted by: tamara.ingram@westdale.com

I am evil..yeah

17.09.2008 @ 01:54
Posted by: or

hi manheimi have so much things to say to you you wouldnt' belive,first of all i was very surprised to see you in two or three documentrys on black metal and mayhem and to see you have a website

and still

"around" the black metal world so too speak,i even read in an' interview

with aerseth in which he says you became a "normal person" and got married and left the "black metal world",my favourite band is mayhem and it [like many others i gues] atraccted me because of all what happend around her,since then i have been obsessed with mayhem history,photos ,stories from the 1984-93 era,for me it is without a doubt the firs true BM band from all aspects,i am a strong beliveing satanist and i find some of your belives to be very very similar to mine and of course the thelemic philosophy and thought to be very similar to satanic philosophy or to part of it,to racism-i belive that not every race and people are equal thats a fact butt they all have the same rights,gust not the same squils to fullfil those rights.i have a few questions for you 1.can you maybe write

an article about the relationship between the early[84-93] BM guys and their personality?i mean like varg,per,aerseth,necro,hellhammer,maniac,it realy fascinates me,not in an idolizing pop star cind of way butt

in a mysterious way2.why did you putt your not realy serious stuff like

the recorded rehearsel "mayhem",or the outro from deathcrush[which i love to listen

i find it very creepy]?by the way the "[weird]manheim" song/part still makes me so full of emotions every time i hear itsorry if i had english mistakes i am half german half israeli [europa desending] jew,and sorry if its to long for you to read ,i had put many thought in my comment

29.10.2008 @ 01:35
Posted by: or

i have also gust read what you said on how all that is told to us [from the "goddic" side] about lucifer is from the god point of view,and i was cind of amazed,i have been saying the exact same thing and it allways seemed to me as if i am the only one who thinks of that

29.10.2008 @ 01:58
Posted by: or

hi manheim!i have so many things to say to you you wouldn't believe,i was very surprised to see you in two or three BM and mayhem documentarys and seeing that you are still around the "black metal world",i have read

an interview with aerseth in which he says that you got married and become a "normal guy".mayhem have been a long time my favourite band and the thing that drowned me in to her where the things that happend around the band[dead,aerseth,different stories..] ,i think mayhem is without a doubt the first bm band from every aspect. i am a strong believing

satanist and a spiritual a person in general and was shocked to see your opinions because some of them are very similar to mine and some are the same,the thing you said that all what is told to us about lucifer from the christians [and other "goddic" people] is theire opinion from there side and of course if there and he are enemies than there going to say that about him,its exactly the same thought which i had and told people,and i thought i am the only one who sees that,about racism-it is a fact that not every people and races are equal butt i believe they have the same rights,just not the same squils to fulfill those rights.i have a few questions for you 1.why did mayhem published[i dont know if thats exactly the right word for that hehe] not so serious records like

the "mayhem" reahearsel ,or the deathcrush outro?which by the way i still like to listen,very creepy,and the "[weird] manheim" still fills me with strong emotions every time2.can you write an article about the realationship between the "early days" guys[1984-93] like hellhammer,aerseth,dead,varg,maniac,necro,what you think about them and just in general give some information about stuff that happend in those times?something that hasne't been told by now.3.is ,or was , some of the mayhem guys a nazi[ecxept varg],some say that necro is,i wanted to knowsorry if i had english mistakes its not my mother language,and sorry if its to long for you to read,thanks

29.10.2008 @ 12:41
Posted by: or

hi manheim!i have so many things to say to you you wouldn't believe,i was very surprised to see you in two or three BM and mayhem documentarys and seeing that you are still around the "black metal world",i have read

an interview with aerseth in which he says that you got married and become a "normal guy".mayhem have been a long time my favourite band and the thing that drowned me in to her where the things that happend around the band[dead,aerseth,different stories..] ,i think mayhem is without a doubt the first bm band from every aspect. i am a strong believing

satanist and a spiritual a person in general and was shocked to see your opinions because some of them are very similar to mine and some are the same,the thing you said that all what is told to us about lucifer from the christians [and other "goddic" people] is theire opinion from there side and of course if there and he are enemies than there going to say that about him,its exactly the same thought which i had and told people,and i thought i am the only one who sees that,about racism-it is a fact that not every people and races are equal butt i believe they have the same rights,just not the same squils to fulfill those rights.i have a few questions for you 1.why did mayhem published[i dont know if thats exactly the right word for that hehe] not so serious records like

the "mayhem" reahearsel ,or the deathcrush outro?which by the way i still like to listen,very creepy,and the "[weird] manheim" still fills me with strong emotions every time2.can you write an article about the realationship between the "early days" guys[1984-93] like hellhammer,aerseth,dead,varg,maniac,necro,what you think about them and just in general give some information about stuff that happend in those times?something that hasne't been told by now.3.is ,or was , one of the mayhem guys a nazi[ecxept varg],some say that necro is,i wanted to knowsorry if i had english mistakes its not my mother language,and sorry if its to long for you to read,thanks

29.10.2008 @ 16:10
Posted by: or

hi manheim!i have so many things to say to you you wouldn't believe,i was very surprised to see you in two or three BM and mayhem documentarys and seeing that you are still around the "black metal world",i have readan interview with aerseth in which he says that you got married and become a "normal guy".mayhem have been a long time my favourite band and the thing that drowned me in to her where the things that happend around the band[dead,aerseth,different stories..] ,i think mayhem is without a doubt the first bm band from every aspect. i am a strong believingsatanist and a spiritual a person in general and was shocked to see your opinions because some of them are very similar to mine and some are the same,the thing you said that all what is told to us about lucifer from the christians [and other "goddic" people] is theire opinion from there side and of course if there and he are enemies than there going to say that about him,its exactly the same thought which i had and told people,and i thought i am the only one who sees that,about racism-it is a fact that not every people and races are equal butt i believe they have the same rights,just not the same squils to fulfill those rights.i have a few questions for you 1.why did mayhem published[i dont know if thats exactly the right word for that hehe] not so serious records likethe "mayhem" reahearsel ,or the deathcrush outro?which by the way i still like to listen,very creepy,and the "[weird] manheim" still fills me with strong emotions every time2.can you write an article about the realationship between the "early days" guys[1984-93] like hellhammer,aerseth,dead,varg,maniac,necro,what you think about them and just in general give some information about stuff that happend in those times?something that hasne't been told by now.3.is ,or was , one of the mayhem guys a nazi[ecxept varg],some say that necro is,i wanted to knowsorry if i had english mistakes its not my mother language,and sorry if its to long for you to read,thanks

30.10.2008 @ 01:22
Posted by: or

hi manheim!i have so many things to say to you you wouldn't believe,i was very surprised to see you in two or three BM and mayhem documentarys and seeing that you are still around the "black metal world",i have read

an interview with aerseth in which he says that you got married and become a "normal guy".mayhem have been a long time my favourite band and the thing that drowned me in to her where the things that happend around the band[dead,aerseth,different stories..] ,i think mayhem is without a doubt the first bm band from every aspect. i am a strong believing

satanist and a spiritual a person in general and was shocked to see your opinions because some of them are very similar to mine and some are the same,the thing you said that all what is told to us about lucifer from the christians [and other "goddic" people] is theire opinion from there side and of course if there and he are enemies than there going to say that about him,its exactly the same thought which i had and told people,and i thought i am the only one who sees that,about racism-it is a fact that not every people and races are equal butt i believe they have the same rights,just not the same squils to fulfill those rights.i have a few questions for you 1.why did mayhem published[i dont know if thats exactly the right word for that hehe] not so serious records like

the "mayhem" reahearsel ,or the deathcrush outro?which by the way i still like to listen,very creepy,and the "[weird] manheim" still fills me with strong emotions every time2.can you write an article about the realationship between the "early days" guys[1984-93] like hellhammer,aerseth,dead,varg,maniac,necro,what you think about them and just in general give some information about stuff that happend in those times?something that hasne't been told by now.3.is ,or was , one of the mayhem guys a nazi[ecxept varg],some say that necro is,i wanted to knowsorry if i had english mistakes its not my mother language,and sorry if its to long for you to read,thanks

30.10.2008 @ 01:23
Posted by: or

hi manheim!i have so many things to say to you you wouldn't believe,i was very surprised to see you in two or three BM and mayhem documentarys and seeing that you are still around the "black metal world",i have read

an interview with aerseth in which he says that you got married and become a "normal guy".mayhem have been a long time my favourite band and the thing that drowned me in to her where the things that happend around the band[dead,aerseth,different stories..] ,i think mayhem is without a doubt the first bm band from every aspect. i am a strong believing

satanist and a spiritual a person in general and was shocked to see your opinions because some of them are very similar to mine and some are the same,the thing you said that all what is told to us about lucifer from the christians [and other "goddic" people] is theire opinion from there side and of course if there and he are enemies than there going to say that about him,its exactly the same thought which i had and told people,and i thought i am the only one who sees that,about racism-it is a fact that not every people and races are equal butt i believe they have the same rights,just not the same squils to fulfill those rights.i have a few questions for you

30.10.2008 @ 01:25
Posted by: or

1.why did mayhem published[i dont know if thats exactly the right word for that hehe] not so serious records like

the "mayhem" reahearsel ,or the deathcrush outro?which by the way i still like to listen,very creepy,and the "[weird] manheim" still fills me with strong emotions every time2.can you write an article about the realationship between the "early days" guys[1984-93] like hellhammer,aerseth,dead,varg,maniac,necro,what you think about them and just in general give some information about stuff that happend in those times?something that hasne't been told by now.3.is ,or was , one of the mayhem guys a nazi[ecxept varg],some say that necro is,i wanted to knowsorry if i had english mistakes its not my mother language,and sorry if its to long for you to read,thanks

30.10.2008 @ 01:26
Posted by: or

i am sorry that it got posted a couple of time its just that it takes a lott of time to post and i thought that i did something wrong,probably because i dont know

norwegian

and didnt understand if it got posted and not,and the time i takes to post just icouraged me that i did a mistake,sorry

30.10.2008 @ 15:31
Posted by: Tanner aka Morbid

I am a Christian and a Black Metalist. To me religion is good, but is the most fucked up part of life. Religion in itself is good, but people use it to Brainwash, war, politics. If they were really religious they would not do that. The reason The old testament is odd is because It is composed of may books. Some are real other metaphorical. The reason new testament is better is Jews misunderstood god and jesus comes... But Black Metal in my opinion, is a fight against society. So we attack religion not for itself, rather for it's misuse. To me black metal is about freedom. Satan represents fight against society. btw, I am a huge Mayhem fan and you have an great blog! Infernal Hails, Tanner

21.03.2009 @ 05:45
URL: http://myspace.com/JarOfPus
Posted by: Manheim

Hi Tanner, Thx for your somments and interesting thoughts. I agree that BM is about freedom, and the fight against forces in society that try to limit peoples freedoms. Your argument on religion is well known, and I've argued against it many times. Maybe if our paths meet we can have the pleasure to discuss it in the future.

21.03.2009 @ 10:35
URL: http://www.manheim.no
Posted by: Jan S.

Hey Manheim!At first of all, this is a very good blog entry, I really enjoyed reading it, eventhough it is pretty long lol. It is very reflected and I can see that you spend alot of times thinking about the problems of Christianity, God, the bible etc. There are a few points of it I want to comment on. Oh yea I should probably say at the beginning that I am a Christian, but all of that are just my opinions, I can't make any general Christian statements, just speak for myself.To the old Testament: The reason it is still in the bible is that it's still relevant for us as Christians. It is just that the conditions changed. The OT was the "old covenant" God made with mankind (especially with the people of Israel) and the NT is the new one. But it is never said in the bible that it is irrelevant, right now. There are alot of laws in it yea, but the most of them make the living together with other human beeings easier. In my opinion, if all people would voluntarily following them, out of their own choice, everybody would get along with each other pretty well. There is that one story in the NT were the pharisees (so the religious leaders of that time) complain to Jesus that his disciples are breaking the sabbath law. Jesus answers them, that "the sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath" (Mark 2:27). I think it is that principle that goes for all old testament laws. If you follow them, just to folow them, just to trie to please God, it becomes mental slavery. But that is not what it was made for in first place. And it's impossible to fullfill them all by the way, because we are all imperfect and I think God knows that pretty good too.Now what I believe as a Chr. is that there was only Jesus who could fullfill all ther OT law, simplyy because he was God in a human's gestalt. He summarizes the OT laws in 2 sentencces:"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength" and "Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these." (Mark 12:29-31). Both of them can already be found in the OT (Deut 6:4,5 / Lev. 19, 18). I think that's what the OT law is all about. That is the basic of it. If you follow this principle, you don't even need to know the OT law. Your behavior would automaticly be good towards your fellow humans. lol, that was kind of a long answer. My point of all that is that the OT might not be that bad as it looks like at first sight. I hope I made my thoughts on it clear.One thought on the church: yea as an institution the church did alot of things werong in her history and there are also alot of thingas going wrong today. I think the problem started when the church became a serious political influence (so the time of Constantin). before that you had no reason to become a Christian unless you wante it and were ready to get persecuted for your beliefs. But then people saw the church as an opportunity to make careeer, to fulfill their own ambitions. I think that can happen to all kind of groups that they can be corrupted by political power and be abused to fulfil selfish desires of individuals or groups of people. That's why in my opinion the seperation of church and state is a pretty good deal for the church too. Because it protects her from being used in that way.There would be alot of more points in yout text I could comment onm, but I think that's it for now.Have a great day!Greetings from Germany, Jan

02.04.2009 @ 14:58
Posted by: Manheim

Hi Jan, and thx for your comment.The arguments you put on the table is not new. The problem with them is that it is not a consensus among the different churches, or even within them on how NT and OT is to be handled. The result is that they all interpret in their own way, and use OT rules as they find suitable. Then again, that is theology, and that is for each religious group to handle for themselves. I do not believe in any of this - old or new - and I therefore dismiss any theological argument to enforce general rules in a society. If christians want to live after a certain ruling, so be it. That is their own free choice to take. But I recent the thought that we are to take thelogical and dogmatic reasoning in consideration when we make our laws.Why I choose to enter the theology of the christains (and other religions for that matter) when I argue, is grounded in the fact that they bring it forward. The theology of all religions in the world is in my opinion based on lies and delution, or if you want faith. Our coexistence should be regulated on reason and known facts, not on a world view based on the views some people thought came from their desert God or, elephant faced God for that matter. I see that you and I agree on the secular point, and that is good. If all religious people took the same view, we wouldn't have any problem at all. Or, at least not these kinds of problems. We could discuss regulations based on common knowledge and humanistic ethics instead of having to ask what a God might think of things. On your point about the christian church, you might be right. But I doubt that the christian organisations was totally innocent until Constantin made christianity the state religion of the roman empire. But it doesn't matter. My point is that religion is by its nature a bad thing, because it haults human development and brings conflict instead of understanding between peoples. On this point the ancient hebrew theology that is the base for Islam, christianity and jewism is one of the worst - in my opinion. And last: It does help to fight religion. I mention in my post abow that the christians in Norway still resist to give gays the same citizien rights as the rest of the population. This has since 2008 been changed. Now gay marriages are legal, and are given equal citizien rights. The church however does not like it, and there are still religious forces that wants to fight it and change it back like they have done in US, California. So the fight goes on. But the fight could be much easier if it wasn't fought only by non-believers. I encourage all religious people to fight for secularism. The world would be a much better place if they did. not perfect - but much much better.I wish you an excellent day to, and a happy easter celebration together with your fellow believers :-)

06.04.2009 @ 10:01
URL: http://www.manheim.no
Posted by: Jan S.

Hey Manheim!thanks for your answer.Yea I know my arguments are probably not new. And I don't know how consistent or logical the are, since it is just what I think/feel about it. General statements I can't make to the topic, just tell my opinion. Well, I guess there has always been theological differences, theological debates in every religion. Between single persons or groups of believers.Since this all doesn#t apply to you any ways, as an Atheist or however you might call yourself, this is just a hypothetical discussion anyways. For the sake of debating. Well of course believers need to bring forward theological arguments on the table, since this is all they've got. A believe cannot be based on facts, it always means to believe in something unknown and to hope that your believe is the righ one.By the way, thank you for your tolerance towards believers. Not all people have that. The thing is, you cannot talk someone in believing a thing or not. That would be like convincing another person to love me, by giving her logical argumentsfor it. Simply doesn't work that way. Like love, believe is also based on feelings. And you have them or not. Period.Therefore i really can't understand why so many believers (no matter of what religion) and non-believers have problems with each other. shouldn't be that way in my opinion.Well of course we could debate now were all the humanistic and secular ideas come from ;). I'm not an expert for that, but I think all that has it roots in the enlightenment period. And of course from that there is a big influence from the reformation in it. Besides the influence of the philosophers of the antique, Christianity had a big influence on humanism.Alot of that values from humanism, or the picture of how humans are seen and the value of the human individual are rooted on Christian values. And with that are not all our values based on any form of religion. I mean, it is for example the general belief that it is bad to kill a fellow human beeing. But were do we know that from? And interestingly that is believed in all cultures. In my opinion it has to dob with the religious influence on human thought. So, common knowledge, were does that come from in your opinion?I agree the Christian problems did not start with Constantin. I'm not an expert for ancient history. But as human beings we are pretty messed up anyways. Now and back then. And with that, yea we Christians did bad things and are stil doing them, just like everybody else. It's probably just human. Or the tendecy to abuse power. To the political influence of the church: I think it is the same for us inGermany, like for you guys up there in Norway. That could be used in a bad way yea. But the church has still also enough influence to warn to beware of bad developments. Like when there are groups who are somehow discriminated by society. Okay ironically it could happen that the church is discriminating certain groups herself. Human faliure?But to take care of the people who are left out from society, because they are poor, hadycapped or just old, is still a big job for the churches. Because obviously our states can handle these problems themself. And to be honest, my trust in any kind of state is not that big, that I believe they could handle that themselves someday. Because there will always be voiceless groups in a society and the church can be a voice for them.So far, for now. I hope you have a nice long weekend.Jan

12.04.2009 @ 03:34
Posted by: Anagha

Hello =)I'm from India, and if you don't know, India is a place throttled by communal riots almost every day. I live in a place where there are many christians and over here there is some kind of rule that if you don't go to catechism, you will not be allowed to get married in church. and so everyone goes. I find the whole religion completely oppressive and children are forced to believe in it and follow it because of the pressure their parents put on them. In India, religion is all about conflict and I think it's all unbelievably stupid. There are muslims who believe they are doing the work of god by killing hindus, hindus kill muslims for whatever reason and christians come in between. India is supposed to be a secular country but that is far from realisation, though it is improving and the newer generations are more tolerant. Recently there has been a hindu group who have been attacking lovers and forcing them to marry, saying that it's wrong to be in love before marriage or whatever. It is all completely absurd and I think your article is great, I wish more people would think like you.Have a great day =)

17.04.2009 @ 19:37
Posted by: Manheim

Hi Anagha, I do have some knowledge of India, but unfortunatly I haven't had the oportunity to visit your country yet. What you describe is just too sad. It is a perfect example of how religion blinds people. Arguing with them is hopeless, because they have a dogma to explain their actions with - and how can one argue against a God? The secular state is not only a state that doesn't choose a state religion. A true secular state makes a distinct line between reason and faith and between what is allowed to regulate rules and law, and what doesn't. Secular states one finds in India, Pakistan the middle east and it's like - are not secular in that context. They allow religous people to enforce their insane and primitive thinking into ruling both locally and globally. I call that something else than secularism. A good example is how the Pakistan gov. hav allowed Taliban to enforce their form of sharia in the north. And even in a country like USA, which strongly put forward their secular state constitution, the religious win battles every day to enforce biblical grounded ruling for everyone to follow. It is difficult to fight against religious power in India, so I guess you need to find a way to do it that doesn't put yourself or people near you in danger. But I recommend you to read "the God delution" by Richard Dawkins. It might give some comfort to see that the religious people are faced with intellectual critisism.Last, let's hope that Durban 2 doesn't end up with putting critisism of religion into a crime agains human rights, as the dictatorships in the middle east and other countries in the east wants. That will be a fist in the eye of huge populations in the world, and will bring back some horrible powers to people that doesn't mean well when they take power, but seak to bring (their) Gods justice on the population.It is a thought that the countries that wants this implemented in the human rights charter, are countries we would not say have freedom implemented in their ruling from before. Luckily countries like USA, Italy and others have chosen to boikot Durban 2 for this reason, and I wish the Norwegian gov. would do the same. But then again the norwegian gov. tried to implement the exactly same rule in norwegian law this winter, so I guess we all know where they stand on the issue.

19.04.2009 @ 09:10
URL: http://www.manheim.no
Posted by: Manheim

Or; Sorry for the late answer. I just forgot. Why we published rehearsals is easy to answer. That was what we did back in the 80ies. There was no internet, so if we wanted to share what we where working on to likeminded around the world, we had to tape it and send it by post. We couldn't afford studio time, which was very expensive before, so that's why the recordings are pretty bad.The outro, was for fun (you got to have humour). Insane me is a piece I made while sitting by the piano. It's simple but strong, I guess. Glad you like it. Putting it on Deathcrush fits well, I think - don't you? :-)2. I mostly have contact with Necro, but now and then I also meet others. Varg is not a friend of mine, on the contrary - I think he is one stupid and childish figure. 3. The nazi thing is something you must ask the others. Varg was very active on that issue, so I guess he is. The others, I wouldn't know. I can say this though; nazism is something I loathe. I have no respect for that way of thinking, and find the whole idea so incredible stupid that I doubt that any person with an intellect are able to follow it.In my times in Mayhem, nazism was never any part of anything we did, said or thought - period.I hope that answers your q's.

19.04.2009 @ 15:32
URL: http://www.manheim.no
Posted by: Morpheah

Well said,sir.Sounds like the situation there is no different than what happens in Greece.PS:I recently heard that the majority of the prisoners in Norway were convicted for vandalising/burning churches.Any chance that's true?

13.05.2009 @ 16:25
Posted by: Manheim

Morpheah, The rumor you've heard is a fairytale. As far as I know there's no one imprisoned in Norway for vandalising or burning churches except for one - and he's there basically for killing Euro, not the burning stuff.

13.05.2009 @ 19:36
URL: http://www.manheim.no
Posted by: Kourosh

Hello manheimI accidentally find your blog when I was reading that article about Norwegian death metal at deathmetal.org. Your views on religions are some kind of elucidations and reasonable too. I think the problem is normal people have a phobia about thinking. Hegel once said that people run away from thought like they run away from plague and I think it's religion that terrify them with this eternal- burning-in-hell stuff which is exactly the same in main religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) and because of this fear they can't think properly like when they think for example about business. So their beliefs become dogma and this dogma brings hell on earth among living people. This can lead to terrorism, racism etc. Nietzsche in his book human all too human said that "for truth, beliefs are more dangerous than lies".Let me tell u about my country. I'm from Iran with muslim background. i don't know ur extent of knowledge about islam, it splits to Shiite and Sunni like Catholics and protestants in Christianity and as u may guess each branch thinks the other branch will burn in hell. Iran is Shiite territory and political leaders exactly exploit people with their beliefs. Shiite believes in religious leaders whom called them "imam". They lived thousand years ago after Muhammad (prophet) and were his kinsmen. Shiite believe that the last imam (the 12th one) is still alive and live in divine and one they he will come and save the world, Something like returning of Christ at apocalypse. The funny thing is he was invisible from his birth up to now and always has deputies on earth. Now political leader after 1979 revolution say that he is his deputy! See how it's easy to exploit people with their own beliefs. Of course younger generation and lots of others don't believe their shits but it's not enough yet. The political regime in Iran is exactly like medieval times in Europe: religious totalitarianism & dictatorship in the name of god and religion. The funny thing is they call their regime "religious democracy"!!!After all I love mayhem, black metal and death metal because they're against these dogmas.Best wishesKourosh

05.06.2009 @ 23:05
Posted by: Anna-Marie

Well said. I mostly identify as Christian, but am always a seeker. I have been in the OTO and studied Thelema, have Wiccan tendencies as well. My belief is that the source of all leads me to open my mind and gain as much knowledge as possible. I also think when I was a young teenager I was sent on a path towards darker music and all it had to offer (still on that path at 40). I actually feel more spirituality from the music than I ever did in church (raised a Baptist - but parents were open to allow me to find my own way).I have to disagree somewhat with Tanner religion is the whole of the problem. If they really wanted to follow Christ they would give up everything and wander the deserts (if that ever even happened). I am a follower of Christ's principles, but not mans procedures to follow that path. Uggh this is such a deep well of thought. Enough to drive a girl bonkers. I wonder if it would be such a big deal if the religious and world leaders felt like most us do and just let everyone be. Let me love who I want and live how I want, listen to what I want, watch what I want so long as I none is harmed. LOVE IS THE LAW. Do what thou wilt is the Whole of the Law. - Should be the only golden rule one needs.93

26.06.2009 @ 19:10
Posted by: Mia

Hi Manheim!

I randomly came across your blog and i'm glad i did;

your views on religion are very interesting and i have to say that i recognized myself while reading this article from the beginning to the end.

I don't know if you will read this but i would like to give my opinion on that even if it was written a couple of years ago. I always enjoyed arguying about religion and philosophy and i couldn't hold myself on this one..

I'm agnostic, i don't know if there is any god or devil but i don't believe in absolute truth. I do believe in individuality and free will, freedom is every human's right and as you already said all humans are equal but apparently some people don't seem to get it, it's funny how these people think that they have been given the mission to bring people into religion and impose their dogma but the truth is that they are no better than anyone else. It's okay to believe in whatever they want as i support free will and i totally respect that but what i do disrespect is those religious fanatics who want to impose their beliefs to others. I personally don't see any good about religion, it always brought conflict and hatred between individuals. Actually i think the problem is not even religion itself but people because they were teached that way they can't think for themselves, even if they do good things to please "god" it's just for pure selfish purposes that come out of their obsession with going to heaven which is not even guaranteed! It's just outrageous.

And when it comes to racism i do agree with you; racists are just smallminded, we were all born with equal rights as human, we obviously don't think the same way, we may have diffrent cultures, religions, colour of skin, everyone has his/her own history but the essence is the same, we have the same needs, desires/fears the difference remains just in the environment, education, lifestyle , mentality but as i said the essence is the same despite of all external factors which means there's no superior or inferior race there are just smart and stupid people... that's the only difference.

That's how i see it.

Have a great day (:

Dark greetings from Algeria

16.09.2009 @ 12:26
Posted by: Amey

I would like to say if you are drunk and if hard metal music is in back ground, at the point you are not following any religion, you are simply worst [ or the best] than a satin or vanom or a evil.

I guess idea behind jumping in to hard metal music with virtual satan image is to forget all worries which are hunting in our brain which are even worst than a satan, eveil which can frighten us but those worries can kill our brain. After all it's an individual's choice!

Your brain cant be comfortable with metal music under Sun. Why? Your brain will explode under Sun due to high blood pressure which is roaming due to the hard metal music. It's a science for them who understands, who don't...for them it's a SATANISM/EVILISM..

Cheer's,

AmeY.

18.09.2009 @ 08:56
URL: http://I_m_from_India.Info
Posted by: nokturrnus

Hi, Manheim.
I agree with your point of view at religious groups, that hold any power. I don't have anything against any religion, but the Church disgusts me. Inquisition? Thou shalt not kill? This doesn't go together. They hate old pagan religions (mostly because they worshiped some statues, pictures), but they do the same: cross, picture of Mary... When someone presents The Church (not God, nor Jesus or anyone from Bible!) as evil or corrupted, he is doomed, they brand him as liar, Satanist, fool or something.
I have some questions:
1. Who sang incomprehensible lead vocals on demo Pure Fucking Armageddon?
2. Did you play the piano on Weird Manheim from Deathcrush?

24.11.2009 @ 18:19
Posted by: Manheim

nokturrnus:

1. Necrobutcher did the vocals

2. Yes, I'm the one behind the piano

25.11.2009 @ 20:49
URL: http://blog.manheim.no/
Posted by: nokturrnus

Thanks. I thought it was Euronymous (q 1) and either Euro or Necro (q 2, although, why would it be called Weird Manhem, then? :) ).
But I forgot one: Can you remember all band members (session included, if any), that sang at Outro (Deathcrush)?
And happy birthday (I hope wikipedia information about 27. 11. is right, if not, nevermind)!

26.11.2009 @ 19:31
Posted by: Manheim

nokturrnus: hehe thx, wiki is correct as always. Outro was a bunch, can't remember, I'm afraid

26.11.2009 @ 19:47
URL: http://blog.manheim.no/
Posted by: charlie martineau

Hey Manheim,

I live in the mid-western US which is quite a conservative christian black hole. I hope Im not overly optimistic and I dont think things will change overnight but it seems to me around here the younger generation is starting to see through the bullshit of Christianity and Conservatism. When I was in High School about 4 years back I started to notice it and the younger kids I work with seem to be showing signs of it too. Maybe something similar is happening in Norway!

13.12.2009 @ 23:28
URL: http://www.mypsace.com/esperikglare
Posted by: Manheim

charlie martineau: that's good news, my friend. It's important that secularism enters the common way of thinking. Respect of the individual builds the ground for freedom of will. It is going slowly forward here in Norway, but there's still some way to go. The dogmatic religious in power are resisting the development, but the islamic presence in Europe and Norway has made more of them more understanding of the point of secularism, in my opinion.

14.12.2009 @ 07:42
URL: http://blog.manheim.no/
Posted by: nick

ive been listening to the album deathcrush lately and im curious on how maniac did those insane vocals?did he just scream at the top of his lungs?

14.02.2010 @ 06:10
Posted by: Ben

im catholic but i listen to black metal bands like burzum darkthrone mayhem dark funeral gorgoroth.i do not like people that force their religion i have my beliefs and ppl have theirs.there is ppl like that in any religion not just christian it's all on the person it's like the muslim suicide bombers it's not their religion that's telling them it's their idiocentric ways to do so.if u ask me i dnt like talking about religion b/c it starts up debates and nobody wins in a debate.so as far as that goes. HAIL BLACK METAL HAIL MAYHEM!!!!

16.04.2010 @ 23:53
Posted by: Helge Aas

Hei Manheim.

Veldig interessant innlegg, jeg sitter på nattskift i nordsjøen og filosoferer.

Du burde blogge mer, eventuelt bli statsminister. Og jeg burde finne ut hva Thelema er for noe.

God sommer!

H. A.

26.06.2010 @ 04:40
Posted by: Michael

I have to thank you Manheim for posting this blog, I really do! A friend of mine on the cult known as "Facebook" forwarded me the link to this blog. I have to say you hit it right on the head. I have been trying to explain this to people for years hahaha, and you summed it up beautifully! Again... Thank you!

12.07.2011 @ 20:06
Posted by: Believer

Hi Mayhem, I came across your site and found it interesting. You seem to know a lot about the bible having read it but you rejected the truth to worship against it. This is not atheism, which is, "in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities." I believe your heart does know the bible to be true and you cannot grasp it to accept it. Rather you simply idolizing your reality with Satan or anti-christian which is what the true word deals with. What wrong with Satan and what's his sin? His sin is attempting to go against his own creator who made him perfect and high angel to have everything but one thing he couldn't have..to be the creator. Satan rejected his perfection and lack of capacity to love to wage a war in heaven attempting to win over his own creator. Would you rather have any doubts or questions as to authority over the entire universe and beings to be fought over by two powerful beings as a mutiny? Wouldn't you want that the universe is stable and to have only a perfect being manage it all? What if Satan did win the war of heave and earth..do you want permanent enslavement and bondage. Right now we all only live less than 120 years just to know both good and evil as Adam and Eve did by disobeying God. Our time is cut short so we know the light and darkness where we all must choose before Christ ends it all and eliminates all evil in society and our hearts once and for all. Mayhem, you read the bible but you don't understand the message. That's your sin because you don't want to speak to God to find out and let him explain it all to you. Adam and Eve had perfection and didn't need to know what evil is while in protection under God. But they chose to know both good and evil from the tree of knowledge. So God let the result be shown to allow for a period of time to show what Satan does, power of darkness, destruction, hatred, lying, murder, stealing, worship of false idols and false gods, sexual sins, covetousness, and unnatural acts like homosexuality. The list is endless and endless of what sins look like and how much suffering they cause. You must have relatively easy in life to truly not know what people do to one another and how it will grow and grow until nothing is left in this world but darkness. It is in the revelation that the tribulation period created man to worship satan and tolerance of men to want darkness over light that God had to cut that 7 yr period short to 3 1/2 years to save some humanity from total destruction. The tribulation is a period of time that is summary of all our sins to come to a point where man has lost the knowledge of good and has accepted evil to reign. Its slow process that took 1000s of years from Adam and Eve to today. Even its a slow process to watch as humans, its extremely fast in relation to time itself and life cycle of the earth to sustain itself for far more millions of years than us destroying it at an accelerated rate. You can't explain that in your music and to your fans. All you can do is complain because you lack knowledge and understanding to save your followers. God allowed you to have followers with your gifts but you have rejected it to spread the word against God. This what Satan did and this what you are doing. Its not just you...it is everyone here who listens to you. Its not Satan in their hearts, but you to lead them to their end. The good and the bad lies within us where we have to choose. I pray that you actually understand God's word and can turn this around to be his voice for the world.

13.09.2011 @ 18:16
Posted by: Manheim

Believer:Thx for your comment.

To get right back at you, I would say that you seem to think you know a lot about me, having read my blog. I can see your thoughts, but regrettable you do not enter any good arguing here. To say that I, in reality, am a believer since I pay the bible attention, and am anti christianity, is just wishful thinking from your side. Of course I need to know about your faith, if I am to understand you and your faith. But it is true that I feel unable to grasp the faith in the so called holy bible. I can not understand how people like you really believe in this, and that you really expect the world to be run by the rules of your faith.

You seem to have the same problem with this blog entry as you accuse me of having with your bible - that is, having trouble grasping it. I say in my post that your God is the evil one, and that we should fight the religious organisations struggle for power in society. And I have a few points in my argument. You on the other hand haven't. You talk about evil, but what evil is this? Is it this satan figure mentioned in the bible? How can it be that this satan figure is so evil? How come this God you talk about can do genocide and worse, and still be the good one in your view....? Is rejection the one and only true sin being done here... rejection of this God figure... and we who reject him are the evil ones? you just underline some of my points if you mean that.

btw I would gladly have a chat with your God, but he doesn't seem to exist. The only one there is to talk to are the religios people claiming to be in touch with him, and they do somehow not provide any comfort or sensibility into the argument other than what i get from what you just wrote here, which is: we don't understand, just have faith and trust in this God. That what seems evil and difficult to understand, in reality is good. - I do not buy that argument. Instead i say it is all a big hoax, based on man made tales and superstition. And that christianity therefore lack any authority in this world.

14.09.2011 @ 22:24
URL: http://blog.manheim.no/
Posted by: Bombsquad

Not that any religious person ever would realize or understand how stupid it is to use a badly constructed storybook as a guide to existence.

And one would never get a straight answer from a "christian" when (s)he is presented the various contradictions in their so called holy book. The only thing these people are good at, are transparent and basic straw man arguments.

18.09.2011 @ 21:57
Posted by: David

Greetings Manheim,

It is nice to see someone whose beliefs reflect mine.

However, do you not feel that your belief in egalitarianism is at odds with your belief that Satan is the good guy? Since Satanism is generally an elitist, might-is-right religion.

Then again many Luciferians believe that part of the reason Satan was cast out of the heavens was his fight for an equal society, something which God was not offering.

15.11.2011 @ 14:02
Posted by: Billy Underdog

Du er jo kristen du, i ordets rette forstand ;-)

10.01.2012 @ 04:04

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